Question / Help Problems with proper settings

[Suicide machine]

Hello!
Before I begin, I want to apolagize for my English, it's not my native language.

I'm having hard time with proper setting up my stream, I'm trying to stream 720p or 1080p.
Main problems are that stream frezze every 5 sec OR it's quality is so poor my eyes bleed.

My upload is:

tested on http://eu.testmy.net/

then I did test in X-split - by picking up server that I want to stream to and setting max bit rate to 14000.
NL - 5500 UK - 4900 Uk2 - 5000 Ger - 4300

Then I used http://obsproject.com/estimator
Set FPS to 30
Set quality to 6 or 7
Your upload speed is sufficient for 720p / 1080p
Recommended max bitrate: 4000
Recommended buffer size: 4000

but those settings were laging as mad, so I started to test around and ended up with

resolution 1920x1080 or downscale to 1280x720
quality balance 7
Max Bitrate 3200
AAC - 128 bitrate
FPS 25
X264 preset - veryfast
vbv-bufsize=128

this is how it looks
http://www.twitch.tv/thiga_unrelenting/b/403273392 1920x1080
http://www.twitch.tv/thiga_unrelenting/b/403273946 1280x720
http://www.twitch.tv/thiga_unrelenting/b/403284012 1920x1080 with http://obsproject.com/estimator settings

far from perfect, blurry, choppy and well you can't see stream lag there aswell which was reported to me by three of my friends that were trying to help me out, they were sitting in UK, US and Norway

I'm out of ideas to tell the truth

I'm trying to get that sharp quality as you can see here http://www.twitch.tv/bwana/b/403211866
Is it even possible for me ?

That would be all I think, Thank you for reading!

Forgot Log it's for 1280x720

05:22:44: Open Broadcaster Software v0.522b - 64bit (　^ω^)
05:22:44: -------------------------------
05:22:44: CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz
05:22:44: CPU Speed: 3392MHz
05:22:44: Physical Memory:  8175MB Total, 4171MB Free
05:22:44: stepping id: 7, model 10, family 6, type 0, extmodel 1, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 8, total cores 4
05:22:44: monitor 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
05:22:44: Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7601 S
05:22:44: Aero is Enabled
05:22:44: -------------------------------
05:22:44: OBS Modules:
05:22:44: Base Address     Module
05:22:44: 000000003FB50000 OBS.exe
05:22:44: 00000000F4260000 OBSApi.dll
05:22:44: 00000000F9940000 DShowPlugin.dll
05:22:44: 00000000F9910000 GraphicsCapture.dll
05:22:44: 00000000F99D0000 NoiseGate.dll
05:22:44: ------------------------------------------
05:22:44: Adapter 1
05:22:44:   Video Adapter: AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series
05:22:44:   Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 2133544960
05:22:44:   Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 4017844224
05:22:44: =====Stream Start: 2013-05-14, 05:22:44===============================================
05:22:44:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
05:22:44:   Base resolution: 1920x1080
05:22:44:   Output resolution: 1280x720
05:22:44: ------------------------------------------
05:22:44: Loading up D3D10...
05:22:44: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{a5f196ac-ef98-406d-ab98-fab8bfea43ae}
05:22:44: ------------------------------------------
05:22:44: Using desktop audio input: Headset (Sound Blaster Tactic(3D) Alpha)
05:22:44: ------------------------------------------
05:22:44: Using auxilary audio input: Headset Microphone (Sound Blaster Tactic(3D) Alpha)
05:22:44: ------------------------------------------
05:22:44: Audio Encoding: AAC
05:22:44:     bitrate: 128
05:22:44: Using Window Capture
05:22:44: Using custom x264 settings: "vbv-bufsize=128"
05:22:44: ------------------------------------------
05:22:44: Video Encoding: x264
05:22:44:     fps: 25
05:22:44:     width: 1280, height: 720
05:22:44:     preset: veryfast
05:22:44:     CBR: no
05:22:44:     CFR: no
05:22:44:     max bitrate: 3200
05:22:44:     buffer size: 128
05:22:44:     quality: 7
05:22:44: ------------------------------------------
05:22:46: Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
05:22:46:   Server selection: rtmp://live-lhr.justin.tv/app
05:22:48: SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
05:22:48: SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
05:23:11: Total frames rendered: 656, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
05:23:11: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
05:23:11: Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
05:23:11: Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
05:23:11: =====Stream End: 2013-05-14, 05:23:11=================================================
05:23:13: 
05:23:13: Profiler results:
05:23:13: 
05:23:13: ==============================================================
05:23:13: frame - [100%] [avg time: 4.894 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 93.4%] [unaccounted: 6.6%]
05:23:13: | scene->Preprocess - [69.4%] [avg time: 3.396 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
05:23:13: | video encoding and uploading - [24%] [avg time: 1.175 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 23.7%] [unaccounted: 0.306%]
05:23:13: | | CopyResource - [0.163%] [avg time: 0.008 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
05:23:13: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.0204%] [avg time: 0.001 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
05:23:13: | | call to encoder - [23.2%] [avg time: 1.135 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
05:23:13: | | sending stuff out - [0.327%] [avg time: 0.016 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
05:23:13: ==============================================================
05:23:13:

This one is for settings from http://obsproject.com/estimator

05:45:19: Open Broadcaster Software v0.522b - 64bit (　^ω^)
05:45:19: -------------------------------
05:45:19: CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz
05:45:19: CPU Speed: 3392MHz
05:45:19: Physical Memory:  8175MB Total, 3843MB Free
05:45:19: stepping id: 7, model 10, family 6, type 0, extmodel 1, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 8, total cores 4
05:45:19: monitor 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
05:45:19: Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7601 S
05:45:19: Aero is Enabled
05:45:19: -------------------------------
05:45:19: OBS Modules:
05:45:19: Base Address     Module
05:45:19: 000000003F1F0000 OBS.exe
05:45:19: 00000000F4260000 OBSApi.dll
05:45:19: 00000000F9940000 DShowPlugin.dll
05:45:19: 00000000F9910000 GraphicsCapture.dll
05:45:19: 00000000F98F0000 NoiseGate.dll
05:45:19: ------------------------------------------
05:45:19: Adapter 1
05:45:19:   Video Adapter: AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series
05:45:19:   Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 2133544960
05:45:19:   Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 4017844224
05:45:19: =====Stream Start: 2013-05-14, 05:45:19===============================================
05:45:19:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
05:45:19:   Base resolution: 1920x1080
05:45:19:   Output resolution: 1920x1080
05:45:19: ------------------------------------------
05:45:19: Loading up D3D10...
05:45:19: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{a5f196ac-ef98-406d-ab98-fab8bfea43ae}
05:45:19: ------------------------------------------
05:45:19: Using desktop audio input: Headset (Sound Blaster Tactic(3D) Alpha)
05:45:19: ------------------------------------------
05:45:19: Using auxilary audio input: Headset Microphone (Sound Blaster Tactic(3D) Alpha)
05:45:19: ------------------------------------------
05:45:19: Audio Encoding: AAC
05:45:19:     bitrate: 128
05:45:19: Using Window Capture
05:45:19: ------------------------------------------
05:45:19: Video Encoding: x264
05:45:19:     fps: 30
05:45:19:     width: 1920, height: 1080
05:45:19:     preset: veryfast
05:45:19:     CBR: no
05:45:19:     CFR: no
05:45:19:     max bitrate: 4000
05:45:19:     buffer size: 4000
05:45:19:     quality: 7
05:45:19: ------------------------------------------
05:45:20: Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
05:45:20:   Server selection: rtmp://live-lhr.justin.tv/app
05:45:22: SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
05:45:22: SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
05:45:46: Total frames rendered: 813, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
05:45:46: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
05:45:46: Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
05:45:46: Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
05:45:46: =====Stream End: 2013-05-14, 05:45:46=================================================
05:45:50: 
05:45:50: Profiler results:
05:45:50: 
05:45:50: ==============================================================
05:45:50: frame - [100%] [avg time: 5.927 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 94.2%] [unaccounted: 5.77%]
05:45:50: | scene->Preprocess - [48.1%] [avg time: 2.853 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
05:45:50: | video encoding and uploading - [46.1%] [avg time: 2.732 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 45.8%] [unaccounted: 0.337%]
05:45:50: | | CopyResource - [0.135%] [avg time: 0.008 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
05:45:50: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.0337%] [avg time: 0.002 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
05:45:50: | | call to encoder - [45.2%] [avg time: 2.677 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
05:45:50: | | sending stuff out - [0.422%] [avg time: 0.025 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
05:45:50: ==============================================================
05:45:50:

 

[Arida]

Usually when your stream freezes it means your dropping frames and most likely streaming at too high of a resolution or bitrate. Try streaming at 720p at quality 7 with a 3500 bitrate. Let me know how that goes.

 

[dodgepong]

According to the logs he posted, he's not dropping frames.

The VOD using the estimator settings looks best to me. Your viewers would be getting stream lag because that bit rate might be on the high side. Maybe try reducing to 3500/3500 and turning on CBR?

 

[Arida]

Yeah I saw that but didn't see any other probable causes. CBR might help too :)

 

[Suicide machine]

Hey thank you for replies!

I tried following

bit rates 3000/3000, 3500/3500, 4000/4000, 2500/2500, 2000/2000
on 1920x1080 and 1280x720

with and without CBR

with CBR stream lags are just insane, where VOD's are just fine
tried to stream with TCPrelay aswell

I will contact my ISP, maybe it's from their side -.-