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Smerte

New Member
Heya! I've been trying to stream some random GW2 gameplay, but I'm having problems with in-game lag. I'm okay with my current quality of the stream, as I know I can't get high quality with my 1mb upload speed. However, currently its quite impossible to play as I get 200-500mms latency IG. Is it even possibly to stream with 1mb? Im quite sure I do have good enough computer for it, atleast.

-Intel Core i5-3570k 3.4GHz
-8GB Ram
-Radeon HD 7950 3GB

Here is some stream footage : http://www.twitch.tv/smertegamer/b/387818850
 
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hilalpro

Member
750 bitrate is not enough for 720p.. for that game downscale to 480p and use the preset "faster" at quality 7 or 6 30 fps and lower the audio bitrate to aac 64.
Pick the closest server to you and use "minimize netword impact" from broadcasting settings.
 
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Smerte

New Member
Oh yea sorry, heres the log. And I've been using the minimize network impact option. And ty for help hilalpro, will try those settings and see if that helps. (been using 850 bitrate btw)
Code: 
Open Broadcaster Software v0.472b - 32bit (´・ω・｀)
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CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz
CPU Speed: 3400MHz
Physical Memory:  4095MB Total, 4095MB Free
stepping id: 9, model 10, family 6, type 0, extmodel 1, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 4, total cores 4
monitor 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7601 S
Aero is Enabled
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Adapter 1
  Video Adapter: AMD Radeon HD 7900 Series
  Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 3201495040
  Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 3971485696
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Adapter 2
  Video Adapter: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000
  Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 67108864
  Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 1711276032
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1280x720
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Loading up D3D10...
Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{2f1913df-447c-42ae-9f0d-8553a4027320}
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Using desktop audio input: Kaiuttimet (Realtek High Definition Audio)
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Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 128
Using text output
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    device: Logitech Webcam Pro 9000,
    device id \\?\usb#vid_046d&pid_0809&mi_00#7&33bdcc9c&0&0000#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{bbefb6c7-2fc4-4139-bb8b-a58bba724083},
    chosen type: RGB24, usingFourCC: false, res: 352x288 - 352x288, fps: 5-30, fourCC: 00000000

Using directshow input
Using graphics capture
x264: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 FastShuffle SSE4.2 AVX
x264: profile High, level 3.1
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Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 25
    width: 1280, height: 720
    preset: veryfast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 850
    buffer size: 850
    quality: 6
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Total frames rendered: 203, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
x264: frame I:1     Avg QP:20.04  size:  5873
x264: frame P:71    Avg QP:26.46  size:   754
x264: frame B:96    Avg QP:34.81  size:   103
x264: consecutive B-frames: 22.0%  4.8%  1.8% 71.4%
x264: mb I  I16..4: 93.8%  2.3%  3.9%
x264: mb P  I16..4:  0.3%  0.1%  0.0%  P16..4:  3.3%  0.8%  0.4%  0.0%  0.0%    skip:95.1%
x264: mb B  I16..4:  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  B16..8:  0.4%  0.1%  0.0%  direct: 0.1%  skip:99.4%  L0:32.1% L1:50.1% BI:17.8%
x264: 8x8 transform intra:7.8% inter:26.0%
x264: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 11.0% 0.4% 0.0% inter: 0.5% 0.0% 0.0%
x264: i16 v,h,dc,p: 94%  2%  3%  0%
x264: i8 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 17% 19% 25%  3%  9%  7%  7%  5%  8%
x264: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 20% 15% 22%  7%  9%  9%  5%  7%  5%
x264: i8c dc,h,v,p: 98%  1%  1%  0%
x264: Weighted P-Frames: Y:1.4% UV:0.0%
x264: kb/s:82.50
=====Stream End=======================================================================
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1280x720
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Loading up D3D10...
Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{2f1913df-447c-42ae-9f0d-8553a4027320}
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Using desktop audio input: Kaiuttimet (Realtek High Definition Audio)
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Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 128
Using text output
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    device: Logitech Webcam Pro 9000,
    device id \\?\usb#vid_046d&pid_0809&mi_00#7&33bdcc9c&0&0000#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{bbefb6c7-2fc4-4139-bb8b-a58bba724083},
    chosen type: RGB24, usingFourCC: false, res: 352x288 - 352x288, fps: 5-30, fourCC: 00000000

Using directshow input
Using graphics capture
x264: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 FastShuffle SSE4.2 AVX
x264: profile High, level 3.1
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Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 25
    width: 1280, height: 720
    preset: veryfast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 850
    buffer size: 850
    quality: 6
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Total frames rendered: 32, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
=====Stream End=======================================================================
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1280x720
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{2f1913df-447c-42ae-9f0d-8553a4027320}
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Kaiuttimet (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 128
Using text output
------------------------------------------
    device: Logitech Webcam Pro 9000,
    device id \\?\usb#vid_046d&pid_0809&mi_00#7&33bdcc9c&0&0000#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{bbefb6c7-2fc4-4139-bb8b-a58bba724083},
    chosen type: RGB24, usingFourCC: false, res: 352x288 - 352x288, fps: 5-30, fourCC: 00000000

Using directshow input
Using graphics capture
x264: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 FastShuffle SSE4.2 AVX
x264: profile High, level 3.1
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Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 25
    width: 1280, height: 720
    preset: veryfast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 850
    buffer size: 850
    quality: 6
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Total frames rendered: 175, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
x264: frame I:1     Avg QP:19.96  size:  6099
x264: frame P:49    Avg QP:26.24  size:   762
x264: frame B:90    Avg QP:35.26  size:   101
x264: consecutive B-frames: 10.6%  5.6% 10.6% 73.2%
x264: mb I  I16..4: 93.6%  2.2%  4.2%
x264: mb P  I16..4:  0.7%  0.1%  0.0%  P16..4:  3.6%  0.9%  0.4%  0.0%  0.0%    skip:94.3%
x264: mb B  I16..4:  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  B16..8:  0.3%  0.1%  0.0%  direct: 0.1%  skip:99.5%  L0:32.1% L1:48.2% BI:19.6%
x264: 8x8 transform intra:3.5% inter:27.8%
x264: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 6.4% 0.3% 0.0% inter: 0.4% 0.0% 0.0%
x264: i16 v,h,dc,p: 97%  1%  2%  0%
x264: i8 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 18% 21% 27%  2%  8%  6%  5%  4%  8%
x264: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 19% 16% 21%  9%  7%  8%  7%  8%  6%
x264: i8c dc,h,v,p: 100%  0%  0%  0%
x264: Weighted P-Frames: Y:0.0% UV:0.0%
x264: kb/s:75.01
=====Stream End=======================================================================
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1280x720
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Loading up D3D10...
Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{2f1913df-447c-42ae-9f0d-8553a4027320}
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Using desktop audio input: Kaiuttimet (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 128
Using text output
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    device: Logitech Webcam Pro 9000,
    device id \\?\usb#vid_046d&pid_0809&mi_00#7&33bdcc9c&0&0000#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{bbefb6c7-2fc4-4139-bb8b-a58bba724083},
    chosen type: RGB24, usingFourCC: false, res: 352x288 - 352x288, fps: 5-30, fourCC: 00000000

Using directshow input
Using graphics capture
x264: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 FastShuffle SSE4.2 AVX
x264: profile High, level 3.1
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Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 25
    width: 1280, height: 720
    preset: veryfast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 850
    buffer size: 850
    quality: 6
------------------------------------------
Total frames rendered: 46, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
x264: frame I:1     Avg QP:14.34  size:  7636
x264: frame P:3     Avg QP:31.13  size:   556
x264: frame B:7     Avg QP:30.69  size:    92
x264: consecutive B-frames:  7.7%  0.0%  0.0% 92.3%
x264: mb I  I16..4: 91.7%  2.0%  6.3%
x264: mb P  I16..4:  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  P16..4:  2.9%  0.8%  0.3%  0.0%  0.0%    skip:96.0%
x264: mb B  I16..4:  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  B16..8:  0.2%  0.1%  0.0%  direct: 0.2%  skip:99.6%  L0:41.2% L1:35.1% BI:23.7%
x264: 8x8 transform intra:2.0% inter:10.7%
x264: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 7.2% 0.2% 0.0% inter: 0.2% 0.0% 0.0%
x264: i16 v,h,dc,p: 97%  2%  1%  0%
x264: i8 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 18% 18% 22%  3%  9%  8%  8%  5%  8%
x264: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 25% 23% 18%  8%  6%  6%  5%  6%  4%
x264: i8c dc,h,v,p: 98%  2%  0%  0%
x264: Weighted P-Frames: Y:0.0% UV:0.0%
x264: kb/s:180.87
=====Stream End=======================================================================
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1280x720
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Loading up D3D10...
Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{2f1913df-447c-42ae-9f0d-8553a4027320}
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Using desktop audio input: Kaiuttimet (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 128
Using text output
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    device: Logitech Webcam Pro 9000,
    device id \\?\usb#vid_046d&pid_0809&mi_00#7&33bdcc9c&0&0000#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{bbefb6c7-2fc4-4139-bb8b-a58bba724083},
    chosen type: RGB24, usingFourCC: false, res: 352x288 - 352x288, fps: 5-30, fourCC: 00000000

Using directshow input
Using graphics capture
x264: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 FastShuffle SSE4.2 AVX
x264: profile High, level 3.1
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 25
    width: 1280, height: 720
    preset: veryfast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 850
    buffer size: 850
    quality: 6
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Total frames rendered: 508, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
x264: frame I:2     Avg QP:16.11  size:  6541
x264: frame P:139   Avg QP:30.11  size:   927
x264: frame B:332   Avg QP:35.49  size:   112
x264: consecutive B-frames:  4.6%  4.2%  1.3% 89.9%
x264: mb I  I16..4: 93.0%  2.1%  4.9%
x264: mb P  I16..4:  1.1%  0.0%  0.0%  P16..4:  4.0%  1.0%  0.4%  0.0%  0.0%    skip:93.4%
x264: mb B  I16..4:  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  B16..8:  0.4%  0.1%  0.0%  direct: 0.1%  skip:99.3%  L0:35.1% L1:43.1% BI:21.8%
x264: 8x8 transform intra:2.9% inter:20.3%
x264: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 5.6% 0.3% 0.0% inter: 0.4% 0.0% 0.0%
x264: i16 v,h,dc,p: 96%  2%  2%  0%
x264: i8 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 20% 19% 21%  2% 12%  9%  7%  6%  6%
x264: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 24% 16% 20%  6%  8%  9%  6%  6%  5%
x264: i8c dc,h,v,p: 99%  1%  0%  0%
x264: Weighted P-Frames: Y:2.9% UV:0.0%
x264: kb/s:75.67
=====Stream End=======================================================================

Profiler results:

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frame - [100%] [avg time: 4.791 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 91%] [unaccounted: 9%]
| scene->Preprocess - [3.42%] [avg time: 0.164 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
| video encoding and uploading - [87.6%] [avg time: 4.196 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 25.3%] [unaccounted: 62.3%]
| | CopyResource - [0.23%] [avg time: 0.011 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.125%] [avg time: 0.006 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | call to encoder - [24.9%] [avg time: 1.192 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | sending stuff out - [0.0209%] [avg time: 0.001 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
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Grimio

Member
The only way to reduce your ingame latency is to reduce the bitrate you stream at.
Also, you should be using CBR to avoid any bitrate spikes. The methods hilalpro listed are very good to make your stream look better with such strict upload speed constraints.
 
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Smerte

New Member
Will go with hilalpro's settings + CBR, thanks for the help! Hopefully I can get faster network with higher upload speed at some point :P
 
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Smerte

New Member
Hmh, seems like I have to drop the bitrate as the bottom left kb/s color indicator thingy was constantly red and around 850-950kb/s. Also the dropped frames were around 6.2%
 
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